Do you think I should downsize? You didn’t know I had a decent size fish pond.
“dans mes rêves“
I dread to think how much my house insurance would go up if I did live in a French chateau. I suspect my little hover mower would struggle a bit. The dog could do some serious digging here. Space and isolation would certainly not be a problem for our son.
Having a garden big enough to go for a long run would be fun. We could even be like Professor X and set up our own school here then we could tell the government to stuff off with its targets.
We were trying to do some work for our son’s end of year maths tests. Not one but two tests. It always fascinates me how his mind works. For example practicing some multiplications. I would write them down old school while he does them almost faultlessly in his head. How on earth can he do 55×23 or 78×33 in his head. That would be beyond me.
He can see numerical progression sequences so much quicker than I can. Working out ratios and percentages are easy for him. He can work out modes, medians and averages again in his head whereas I again have to write them down. This will cause him problems going forward in exams as he will need to show his workings.
Yet he just can’t process decimal points. Introduce a decimal point into the simplest of calculations and his onboard processor stops working. So for example 1897648+987985 can be done in his brain really quickly yet he is lost with 1.4+1.7. Similarly ask him to round up 14356965 to the nearest thousandth and it’s done instantly. Yet ask him to round 1.23 to one decimal place and again he is lost.
He’s got other black holes in maths. Apparently no clear rhyme or reason to these. A Clinical Psychologist referred to these as his Number Dyslexia. Another label which is not really understood. It wouldn’t be a problem if we lived in that French chateau but in our reality we will need to find a way of solving these riddles. It’s added to our to do list and we will crack on with them – at some stage. But first I need to go and clean my 1000 windows.
Well there are castles of varying sizes, maybe a small, quaint one would suit better? 😉
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Not sure it would suit the bank manager…
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That’s why you have a staff. I recommend making the politicians in charge of the school tests do it.
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That would work
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He will learn. Quick mind.:)
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Hope so
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Maths are hard!
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It is.
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He is a genius (at least I believe he is…) because I can’t multiply 8 * 7… hm 😢😢😱
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I’m with you on that.
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Well…and who can round up all those long numbers?
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Not me.
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Pond is too much job. No pond – happy life. Or happier.
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That is true. I remember my Dad getting me to clean out the pond (a small pond) – hated it.
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😂😂✌️
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That is frustrating for sure. I know many people who struggled in math because they could do it in their head no problem, but had a hard time showing the work. Math has certainly changed. I try to help my son with math problems, but apparently the simple methods I learned ages ago are no longer acceptable. Even though the answer is the same, the kids are marked wrong for not working the problem in some ridiculous fashion that they teach now.
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I agree, I think it is ridiculous the long way they have to do maths, compared to the old way at school. It’s not like it’s going to help us in our own lives.
As long as we under to add, to subtract, etc.. which will help us to understand our wage slip that we are being paid correctly in later life and to know we are given the right change before leaving a shop, then that’s great. But the rest is not going to help a majority of us.
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I’m still waiting to use Pythagorean theory…
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I look at the marking schemes and think what are they playing at. It’s like the fascination with coding rather than letting kids exploit the potential of IT. It’s as if a dusty old 200 year old fossil is designing the teaching programme- someone like me.
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“That damn dot just keeps getting the way!”
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It does…
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I hate math. I am history & grammar.
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I’m with you on that
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Nice rêve! 😉 – That guy sure liked the old observation tower huh? Think maybe he had a lot of enemies and wanted to see them coming??
Hmmm… starting up your own school? Or study group even?? Might be worthy of further thought – maybe you could even get a government grant to help? Any other Yorkshirites you know may be interested? Or what if it was ‘on-line’ – i’m sure there could be some support for that one!
It would be fascinating to know how his mind does (and doesn’t) do that. I can guess the answer he gives when you ask him how he knows the answers: “It’s Obvious!”, “Because it is!”, “It’s so simple!” but ask him to teach you how to do what he does and what happens? Let him explain to you VERY basically (as if you were dumb!) how he goes about ‘seeing the so obvious’ that the rest of us can’t see at all?
As for decimals, tell him to ignore the ‘point’ to start with and get the ‘raw’ answer then use a simple table to provide the answer for where the dot has to go (depends if problem involves one of addition/sub or multi/div., and on the number of places after the dot in the original numbers – there are only around 8 common choices for double sets of numbers like in the examples you gave above).
As for the ‘workings’ … Sadly, in science and maths, there is no real value in a thing if it can not be repeated by someone with no real expertese, which means you have to be able to explain how you came to the conclusion you reached so that others can easily verify if you are right and where any error might have occured in the unlikely instance that you are, in fact, wrong! (Even if you just put the decimal point in the wrong place!) 😉
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It’s bizarre even when you give multiple choice answers with say only 2 viable answers he just can’t visualise it at all. Struggles to see the logic in the 2 viable answers.
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Yes, I too occasionally dream of exchanging my flat in the South of France for a chateau in rural France when perusing property porn. But common sense reasserts itself when I think about trying to clean all those windows. I sadly have no solution for the decimal dilemma.
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Maybe we could just move the decimal place a few places to the left on the chateau asking price.
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How frustrating for your son. He has such a sharp mind! I would struggle in a very similar way, but your son is very clever in many ways… Just need to find the right method.
I assume that this page might not help, but worth a look.
http://www.math.com/school/subject1/lessons/S1U1L5DP.html
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I seem to remember that someone (not a school teacher) gave me this method to work out decimals. Might have been my Dad, but could have been my eldest sister who taught A level maths.
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It’s worth a try
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I can see that this accepted method does not fall into logical processing used by the brain, and might be why your son struggles with it. He will want to resolve how the fractions become whole numbers… In other words, his brain computer wants to use all the cogs, rather than take the zip-line short cut to the answer.
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It is
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Thanks going to try that at the weekend with him
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Oh to live in one of those! Seems like it would be so cool – and then I would wonder at how I would clean it all. And parts would definitely be haunted…. That is really interesting about your son and math. So brilliant and stuck at the same time. How the mind works!
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Just imagine the never ending cleaning cycle. But it’s nice to dream. Imagine the fun the kids could have.
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I would love it as a child. So much fun to explore. Then the old negative nilly parent in me comes out and looks at silly stuff like “cleaning” and “ghosts” 🙂
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Could be good ghosts. You could afford a fleet of robot hoovers.
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Nicely topped and tailed as always. Why the label Number Dyslexia when he has a brain that can work number miracles?
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I think it comes from he sometimes reverses the numbers when he writes them down.
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But is his special ability recognised?
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No
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Ignorance personified
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Indeed
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I could do the calculus problems if they were written on the board. But I couldn’t write down how I had done it on paper. I always had the right answer….just couldn’t tell the professor my thought process.
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My professor kept asking me if I had taken root yet. Clearly not impressed with my brain.
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uh oh!
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If I could afford to live in a chateau, I could afford a gardener and window cleaner.
Right now our two bed bungalow has yet another blown window (guy coming tomorrow to measure up) and Hubby managed to cut both front and back lawns yesterday.
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We could share one. Split it up into smaller sections. I cut the grass today in preparation for the next weather assault tonight.
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Good plan! It’s tipping down again here, but no thunder which was hinted at.
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Yep an ark may be needed here today.
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God how we miss the boat!
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It sounded wonderful
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It was a good life (sigh)
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It did sound it
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🙂
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Late to the party here. Talking numbers, I’ve never been able to balance a cheque book which is why I had to bookmark this today in order to pop back later. Ask no questions get no lies told. I just think reading this, your boy can more than do numbers and what is wrong here is the system that says you have to do them a certain way. A way that you never use again in your life that I’ve noticed. I am dyslexic with numbers with many stories to tell re that at school. Seriously, go clean the chateaux windows.
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I can’t be bothered to clean 8 windows that often. School and system seem even less inclined to consider number dyslexia. My bank manager would say I am bank account dyslexic. Son says I am definitely baking recipe dyslexic.
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Oh me and the MR have been bank manager dyslexic all our married life. But we’ve always landed stupidly, unbelievably lucky with houses we’ve bought without thinking about it either so they shut it eventually. School and system will want to consider what they want to consider. The thing is ? I spent my whole school life thinking I am an idiot with numbers and actually I’m not as I found out later in very different circumstances. So hang in there.
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Thank you
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A bit late BUT I never could do numbers! Hope you’re ok Gary x
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We are still here which is a start. It’s absolutely chucking it down.
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Wow! Your son has a phenomenal talent. Asking him to show how he works it out is like asking Picasso how to paint. Ugh! Some rules should be thrown out the window especially in exceptional cases, like your son’s. That’s like genius level stuff! Wish you could have a castle and all the benefits that would ensue.
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A small chateau would be nice. Might put a lottery ticket on today.
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Yeah we buy our weekly bit of hope here too – wishing you luck 🙂
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Hope is good even when it’s so unlikely
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It costs very little of buoy our spirits with “what if?”
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It does
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Yeah, this is definitely a problem and sadly he’ll need to do the whole “show your working out thing” or lose the marks. I know from experience. I was always in trouble for either not showing my working out or not working things out in the way I was meant to. It’s still relevant now because I’m doing an OU degree in my spare time.
It’s just another way in which people who can totally do the work get penalised if they don’t do things the same way as most other people in the group.
It would be so much better if he could be allowed to focus on the good stuff, like the fact that he gets the answers way faster and more easily than everyone else 🙂
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It so would.
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I never even thought about number dyslexia. My daughter decided she wanted to do GCSE Maths and English this year. Her decision. So we’ve been in the world of major melt-downs and study for a while. We just went for foundation Maths but it was so frustrating at times. There are so many different exam boards. We went for Edexcel IGCSE, I think because it was just two exams and both calculator ones. It really makes no sense to me all the things they have to learn. Foundation for what? She quite enjoyed Pythagoras as it turned out but I can’t see it playing a very necessary part in her life. It was a huge thing for her anyway, whatever her results. And the more we focused on the things she could do, the more the other things came together, or became less of an issue. Funny that! Keep on keeping on!
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Thank you. You think you did well with your daughter. That’s what I’m clinging to.
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You know, as magical as such a castle would be, I just can’t fathom staying in one. I’d freak out–all those unseen spaces where anyone could be hiding. Noooo thank yoU!
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But think of all those rooms. You could sneak away and it would take weeks before they found you.
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Nope! Toooootally freaky. I’d just stay in, like, one room with an exit to the outside and never leave 🙂
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So when I win the lottery you want a Chateau with only one room.
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Well ideally the bathroom should have, you know, walls. 🙂
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You will be wanting running water next….
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Yes please! 🙂
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Electricity as well….
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Well…yeah…
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Ok that’s doable. Just need to start buying lottery tickets now…
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lol 🙂
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isnt that fascinating? that he can do some maths exceptionally well but then is stumped on oothers? awesome how he can add in his head though! something I definitely cant do!
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I struggle with that as well.
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